It's another.... ICC25

[Jex]

According to our loose schedule, we're due another of these this coming friday. However, I'm busy being a chef that night so won't be able to take responsibility for it.

I'm also unavailable on Saturday night as I'm off to see some Shakespeare (well, la dee da...).

Options are therefore as follows: you all give me another night this week you're happy with (available in this lockout are Wednesday, Sunday or next Monday) or you / I / we arm-wrestle another Officer-type into forming a pug on the Friday or Saturday. I remain perfectly happy to helm these, but there's nothing that says someone else can't and Pil and Morf have already been fairly heavily involved.

[Morf]

Given how all of our runs are typically group efforts, most of what the RL has to do is cope with endless whispers and bitching from the puggers, post tactics and issue mid-fight orders, while delegating as much as possible to the others in the group. I'm quite happy to not be the figurehead in the raid, but if no-one else is desperate to do the job, I guess I can.

[Jex]

Aye, what's primarily needed is someone who can answer whispers and make the definitive call on all the things that would otherwise be faffed to infinity. Based on past experiece I think it helps if the RL handles loot, but I personally prefer to have someone else producing a list so that I'm free to focus on keeping the rolls moving and dealing promptly with debates.

There's also forming it, which, in my opinion, is really a two person job anyway: one to spam trade and another to help them weather the applications. Even then it's pretty hectic at times.

[Jex]

Turns out I can come to this after all Morf, so I'll sign the rogue up to the event you've created. Happy (keen, in fact) for someone else to take a turn at leading it, but I'll still be fine with helping out in whatever other ways you need: forming, tactics, etc.

[Morf]

Forming and tactics (at the very least making sure I don't make any major mistakes where they differ from 10 man) would be good, thanks.

[Jex]

The maccros should take care of everything up to festergut. From then on it's a case of hoping the raid isn't full of idiots and trying hard to organise them in the plagueworks. Rot is practically identical and fester, as you'll know, needs more rigid collapse points.

[bob]

Is this thing happening tonight or saturday? And what time is kick off?

[Jex]

Tonight and kick-off should be 8pm UK / 9pm ST - assuming Morf's keeping the slot as it usually is.

[Jex]

This didn't go ahead tonight (friday) due to an overall low turnout, both in terms of signups and 'show ups'. I'm not around tomorrow night myself and may yet join a PuG over the weekend, but if people would like to try and put together a guild pug it might be worth expressing interest here. I won't personally be able to run one next weekend as I've friends staying over, but someone else might.

With regard to turnout and viability: I personally think we need to be fairly close to 10 or so guildies to make these worthwhile and enjoyable. Much less and we all may as well pug the raid, either individually, or in smaller groups. I enjoy the guild pugs, as do other people, but we want to make sure they are actually guild pugs and don't simply involve herding an army of randoms for the benefit of a few of us.

With regard to no-shows, I'd like to point out that these raids should be considered in the same manner as our 10 mans when it comes to setting your sign up. If you're not sure you'll be available or willing on the night, stick up a tentative. If you select the green 'signed up' then the raid leader has every right to expect you to actually turn up. Pugs are obviously less dependent upon class balance and key roles within the guild signups, but, bearing in mind the above, it's still important to know if we have enough of a turnout to make it worthwhile and which classes and roles we'll need to pug. If people don't show up on time they shouldn't complain if the raid ends up full of their class / there's no spot left / etc. Scheduling, forming and running these takes effort and it's only fair if people treat the events in kind.

Cheers,

Jex

[Morf]

What he said.